Oh my God! It's the worst.
Latest one is Vavat, some kid from Romania living in Toronto. Asks for my lowest price, give it to him. Then asks if it's a 7-seater. I reply that I don't think they made a 7-seat Cayenne, gotta get the Audi Q7 for that.
He replies "Well I think you don't know much about cars." Then offers 1/3 my lowest price. I blocked and gave him a single star review.
Have had guys make appointments and never show, same guy twice. Lots of offers, but nobody shows up.
Arrrrgh!
When I put my BMW up on Marketplace in the spring I got a ton of messages from people in Ontario and Quebec – not too surprising, it's a cheap manual BMW wagon. Sent a few people detailed videos of the car but then I got lucky and had a local buyer come see it the day after I listed it, and he picked it up the day after that and paid close to what I was asking.
I've made $1000 this year on deposits for people who've flaked out on buying my car after they asked me to "hold it" and consider it sold..So could I take it off the market? Sure. $500 deposit and if you're not here by X date you forfeit deposit.
Happened twice.
After the 2nd time, I unlisted the car. Didn't feel like wasting my time over the summer, so perhaps I'll relist in the fall.
I feel your pain, dude!
I started putting a line in my ad saying "I will not respond to anyone who asks if the car is still available" and I'd still get those messages!
The average car buyer is an insufferable moron.
I got lucky when I sold my SLK last year on Marketplace, but I did have a few interesting trade offers & then some crazy lowball offers as well, but with those I had a lot of fun when they'd offer me $8k less than asking, I'd respond back with a counter-offer $8k over my asking price & then they'd get all confused & tell me I was being ridiculous... which I'd reply "exactly" :)
Did you put it up on Kijiji as well? Sometimes you have a bit better luck on there, less flaky people generally.
Quote from: Gurgie on Aug 27, 2025, 08:35 AMDid you put it up on Kijiji as well? Sometimes you have a bit better luck on there, less flaky people generally.
Yeah, should put it up there too.
I've had at least half a dozen offers where I say "show up with the money"....and nobody does. Flakes.
Quote from: RRocket on Aug 27, 2025, 12:43 AMAfter the 2nd time, I unlisted the car. Didn't feel like wasting my time over the summer, so perhaps I'll relist in the fall.
The average car buyer is an insufferable moron.
Sellers are no better... I tried to buy an LS 460 Sport from a clown near Windsor for full asking price and he didn't want to sell it to me...
Quote from: TheHire on Aug 30, 2025, 09:51 PMQuote from: RRocket on Aug 27, 2025, 12:43 AMAfter the 2nd time, I unlisted the car. Didn't feel like wasting my time over the summer, so perhaps I'll relist in the fall.
The average car buyer is an insufferable moron.
Sellers are no better... I tried to buy an LS 460 Sport from a clown near Windsor for full asking price and he didn't want to sell it to me...
You forgot the part about how you insisted the clown deliver the car to your doorstep (then find his own way home, all on his own time) as part of the deal because you were "too busy"...
I'd say buyers who think their time is more valuable than the sellers time can pose hurdles for a convenient, quick sale as well....
Quote from: RRocket on Aug 31, 2025, 08:16 AMQuote from: TheHire on Aug 30, 2025, 09:51 PMQuote from: RRocket on Aug 27, 2025, 12:43 AMAfter the 2nd time, I unlisted the car. Didn't feel like wasting my time over the summer, so perhaps I'll relist in the fall.
The average car buyer is an insufferable moron.
Sellers are no better... I tried to buy an LS 460 Sport from a clown near Windsor for full asking price and he didn't want to sell it to me...
You forgot the part about how you insisted the clown deliver the car to your doorstep (then find his own way home, all on his own time) as part of the deal because you were "too busy"...
I'd say buyers who think their time is more valuable than the sellers time can pose hurdles for a convenient, quick sale as well....
Yeah there are definitely some buyers out there who feel they are doing you a favour by buying your vehicle but it most certainly is the other way around when you are doing a private sale. This isn't their livelihood and they don't have sales targets and bonuses to worry about.
Quote from: RRocket on Aug 31, 2025, 08:16 AMQuote from: TheHire on Aug 30, 2025, 09:51 PMQuote from: RRocket on Aug 27, 2025, 12:43 AMAfter the 2nd time, I unlisted the car. Didn't feel like wasting my time over the summer, so perhaps I'll relist in the fall.
The average car buyer is an insufferable moron.
Sellers are no better... I tried to buy an LS 460 Sport from a clown near Windsor for full asking price and he didn't want to sell it to me...
You forgot the part about how you insisted the clown deliver the car to your doorstep (then find his own way home, all on his own time) as part of the deal because you were "too busy"...
I'd say buyers who think their time is more valuable than the sellers time can pose hurdles for a convenient, quick sale as well....
Actually, I think the dropping it off idea was yours, when you were trying to buy something in Toronto already. And I thought it was a fair ask in exchange for full asking price, which you obviously weren't getting elsewhere.
Yes, everyone wants their own convenience in their own way.
It all worked out in the end, because if I'd bought yours, I would have had to unload it again when I found the '17.
In other news, this moved in one day, for full pop, to the first guy on it. Easy sale, neat trade-in ('17 Alpina B6 Gran Coupe) with some meat on the bone left for it too. I will really, really miss it and I'm glad I got to enjoy that experience for over two years.
(https://i.imgur.com/QLfdTQW.jpeg)
Quote from: TheHire on Sep 07, 2025, 12:04 PMIt all worked out in the end, because if I'd bought yours, I would have had to unload it again when I found the '17.
Definitely.
The 17 is perfection
Quote from: TheHire on Sep 07, 2025, 12:06 PMIn other news, this moved in one day, for full pop, to the first guy on it. Easy sale, neat trade-in ('17 Alpina B6 Gran Coupe) with some meat on the bone left for it too. I will really, really miss it and I'm glad I got to enjoy that experience for over two years.
Of all the cars you've owned, far an away my favorite.
Quote from: RRocket on Sep 07, 2025, 07:03 PMQuote from: TheHire on Sep 07, 2025, 12:06 PMIn other news, this moved in one day, for full pop, to the first guy on it. Easy sale, neat trade-in ('17 Alpina B6 Gran Coupe) with some meat on the bone left for it too. I will really, really miss it and I'm glad I got to enjoy that experience for over two years.
Of all the cars you've owned, far an away my favorite.
Mine too. Everything about that car was exactly how I'd want one.
Quote from: Revelations on Sep 07, 2025, 07:41 PMQuote from: RRocket on Sep 07, 2025, 07:03 PMQuote from: TheHire on Sep 07, 2025, 12:06 PMIn other news, this moved in one day, for full pop, to the first guy on it. Easy sale, neat trade-in ('17 Alpina B6 Gran Coupe) with some meat on the bone left for it too. I will really, really miss it and I'm glad I got to enjoy that experience for over two years.
Of all the cars you've owned, far an away my favorite.
Mine too. Everything about that car was exactly how I'd want one.
I'd have an impossible task of deciding between a used LC500 and all the 911 C4S I could get for the same money...
Quote from: RRocket on Sep 08, 2025, 12:30 AMQuote from: Revelations on Sep 07, 2025, 07:41 PMQuote from: RRocket on Sep 07, 2025, 07:03 PMQuote from: TheHire on Sep 07, 2025, 12:06 PMIn other news, this moved in one day, for full pop, to the first guy on it. Easy sale, neat trade-in ('17 Alpina B6 Gran Coupe) with some meat on the bone left for it too. I will really, really miss it and I'm glad I got to enjoy that experience for over two years.
Of all the cars you've owned, far an away my favorite.
Mine too. Everything about that car was exactly how I'd want one.
I'd have an impossible task of deciding between a used LC500 and all the 911 C4S I could get for the same money...
That's tough indeed, but my vote goes to the LC 100%.
Quote from: RRocket on Sep 08, 2025, 12:30 AMQuote from: Revelations on Sep 07, 2025, 07:41 PMQuote from: RRocket on Sep 07, 2025, 07:03 PMQuote from: TheHire on Sep 07, 2025, 12:06 PMIn other news, this moved in one day, for full pop, to the first guy on it. Easy sale, neat trade-in ('17 Alpina B6 Gran Coupe) with some meat on the bone left for it too. I will really, really miss it and I'm glad I got to enjoy that experience for over two years.
Of all the cars you've owned, far an away my favorite.
Mine too. Everything about that car was exactly how I'd want one.
I'd have an impossible task of deciding between a used LC500 and all the 911 C4S I could get for the same money...
Not that hard for me. The day the LC left, I took this home... and it's no context. LC all day every day.
https://www.clarksonfinecars.com/inventory/2017-porsche-911-carrera-4s-coupe/
My wife snagged the 911 for a quick drive and said "I don't love this, I miss our LC"
My dad helped me run an errand in the 911 and drove it about 45km... "This is nice and all, but I prefer your old smelly 911"
Quote from: RRocket on Sep 08, 2025, 12:30 AMQuote from: Revelations on Sep 07, 2025, 07:41 PMQuote from: RRocket on Sep 07, 2025, 07:03 PMQuote from: TheHire on Sep 07, 2025, 12:06 PMIn other news, this moved in one day, for full pop, to the first guy on it. Easy sale, neat trade-in ('17 Alpina B6 Gran Coupe) with some meat on the bone left for it too. I will really, really miss it and I'm glad I got to enjoy that experience for over two years.
Of all the cars you've owned, far an away my favorite.
Mine too. Everything about that car was exactly how I'd want one.
I'd have an impossible task of deciding between a used LC500 and all the 911 C4S I could get for the same money...
C4S? Not all the 911 Turbo for the same money? Or maybe a C2 GTS?
That's a really nice spec for a 911... But I'm blown away that a 7 year old C4 with 70k km is going for $130k.
Quote from: Tortoise on Sep 09, 2025, 10:40 AMThat's a really nice spec for a 911... But I'm blown away that a 7 year old C4 with 70k km is going for $130k.
How about this 13yr old C4 GTS for sale locally here in Ottawa for $160k!! :o
https://finder.porsche.com/ca/en-CA/dealer/details/porsche-911-carrera-4-gts-preowned-RGO92Q?sortBy=price.value&sortDir=asc&condition=used&model=911&dealership=5574
Those 997s are rare and are always big money.
Unless you're selling a sketchy convertible on BaT, that is. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2012-porsche-911-997-carrera-cabriolet-3/
Quote from: Oliver on Sep 09, 2025, 03:09 PMThose 997s are rare and are always big money.
Unless you're selling a sketchy convertible on BaT, that is. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2012-porsche-911-997-carrera-cabriolet-3/
Cool Black Edition car, but sketchy as f@$k!!
Quote from: Gurgie on Sep 09, 2025, 08:43 AMQuote from: RRocket on Sep 08, 2025, 12:30 AMQuote from: Revelations on Sep 07, 2025, 07:41 PMQuote from: RRocket on Sep 07, 2025, 07:03 PMQuote from: TheHire on Sep 07, 2025, 12:06 PMIn other news, this moved in one day, for full pop, to the first guy on it. Easy sale, neat trade-in ('17 Alpina B6 Gran Coupe) with some meat on the bone left for it too. I will really, really miss it and I'm glad I got to enjoy that experience for over two years.
Of all the cars you've owned, far an away my favorite.
Mine too. Everything about that car was exactly how I'd want one.
I'd have an impossible task of deciding between a used LC500 and all the 911 C4S I could get for the same money...
C4S? Not all the 911 Turbo for the same money? Or maybe a C2 GTS?
Yes, of course. Duh!
996 Turbo for me.
Quote from: TheHire on Sep 09, 2025, 08:41 AMQuote from: RRocket on Sep 08, 2025, 12:30 AMQuote from: Revelations on Sep 07, 2025, 07:41 PMQuote from: RRocket on Sep 07, 2025, 07:03 PMQuote from: TheHire on Sep 07, 2025, 12:06 PMIn other news, this moved in one day, for full pop, to the first guy on it. Easy sale, neat trade-in ('17 Alpina B6 Gran Coupe) with some meat on the bone left for it too. I will really, really miss it and I'm glad I got to enjoy that experience for over two years.
Of all the cars you've owned, far an away my favorite.
Mine too. Everything about that car was exactly how I'd want one.
I'd have an impossible task of deciding between a used LC500 and all the 911 C4S I could get for the same money...
Not that hard for me. The day the LC left, I took this home... and it's no context. LC all day every day.
https://www.clarksonfinecars.com/inventory/2017-porsche-911-carrera-4s-coupe/
My wife snagged the 911 for a quick drive and said "I don't love this, I miss our LC"
My dad helped me run an errand in the 911 and drove it about 45km... "This is nice and all, but I prefer your old smelly 911"
Different cars, different missions.
911 C4S can be properly hooned, year round.
It always broke my heart to put my Supra (or other sports car) away for the winter.
Quote from: RRocket on Sep 09, 2025, 06:00 PMDifferent cars, different missions.
911 C4S can be properly hooned, year round.
It always broke my heart to put my Supra (or other sports car) away for the winter.
My C2 does decent enough in the winter ;D
Quote from: Gurgie on Sep 09, 2025, 10:05 PMQuote from: RRocket on Sep 09, 2025, 06:00 PMDifferent cars, different missions.
911 C4S can be properly hooned, year round.
It always broke my heart to put my Supra (or other sports car) away for the winter.
My C2 does decent enough in the winter ;D
Ya!! LOL 😆
But it's not the same, you know?
Quote from: RRocket on Sep 09, 2025, 11:43 PMQuote from: Gurgie on Sep 09, 2025, 10:05 PMQuote from: RRocket on Sep 09, 2025, 06:00 PMDifferent cars, different missions.
911 C4S can be properly hooned, year round.
It always broke my heart to put my Supra (or other sports car) away for the winter.
My C2 does decent enough in the winter ;D
Ya!! LOL 😆
But it's not the same, you know?
Yeah, the AWD of the C4 would help out a bit in the winter. When I was looking, my Porsche specialist buddy told me to stay away from the C4's, he said just more shit to wear out & more complicated to repair down the road when something goes south.
Quote from: Gurgie on Sep 10, 2025, 09:02 AMQuote from: RRocket on Sep 09, 2025, 11:43 PMQuote from: Gurgie on Sep 09, 2025, 10:05 PMQuote from: RRocket on Sep 09, 2025, 06:00 PMDifferent cars, different missions.
911 C4S can be properly hooned, year round.
It always broke my heart to put my Supra (or other sports car) away for the winter.
My C2 does decent enough in the winter ;D
Ya!! LOL 😆
But it's not the same, you know?
Yeah, the AWD of the C4 would help out a bit in the winter. When I was looking, my Porsche specialist buddy told me to stay away from the C4's, he said just more shit to wear out & more complicated to repair down the road when something goes south.
My ideal would be a 996 Turbo.
Robust car.
Finally sold the Cayenne, basically one notch above sending to scrappers.
The guy lives about an hour away, told me he'd buy it if I can deliver it, which I did. The test was if it could make it there it was worth buying.
Drivetrain on it is still great, if I could have swapped that V8 into my Q7 I would have.
Quote from: blur911 on Dec 07, 2025, 10:52 AMDrivetrain on it is still great, if I could have swapped that V8 into my Q7 I would have.
Where there's a will, there's a way!!