What's good economy for an EV?

[dkazzed]

That's handy! I wish my Hyundai kept track of that.

[Blizzard]

Over the 2 years and 18,000 km I've had my Bolt, I've averaged 15.2 kWh/100 km according to the car. That's consistently translated into anywhere from 12.5-14 in the summer to 18-22 in winter. I drive more in the warm months than in the dead of winter which is why I skew lower, and I'm lucky enough to park in a heated garage overnight which helps for sure. Often on winter mornings I'm comfortable with just the heated seat and no HVAC.

[dkazzed]

The joys of driving smaller EVs. I might get down to 15-16 with no HVAC load just driving to a nearby grocery store, but honestly my IONIQ 9 still costs half as much to "fuel" as my 300cc motorcycle.

Often on winter mornings I'm comfortable with just the heated seat and no HVAC.

I can too, but honestly I tell my partner to use it how she pleases. I was vehmenetly against remote start with gas vehicles but I tell her to remote warm the EV to her heart's desire. In the winter. It's scheduled to warm to 20C by 7:45am every weekday morning, then she just uses the app whenever she's able to leave work. That's why our plug usage is as high as 55 kWh/100km.

[Blizzard]

The joys of driving smaller EVs. I might get down to 15-16 with no HVAC load just driving to a nearby grocery store, but honestly my IONIQ 9 still costs half as much to "fuel" as my 300cc motorcycle.

Often on winter mornings I'm comfortable with just the heated seat and no HVAC.

I can too, but honestly I tell my partner to use it how she pleases. I was vehmenetly against remote start with gas vehicles but I tell her to remote warm the EV to her heart's desire. In the winter. It's scheduled to warm to 20C by 7:45am every weekday morning, then she just uses the app whenever she's able to leave work. That's why our plug usage is as high as 55 kWh/100km.

I have no information about my plug/charger usage, since there's no wifi in my condo garage, which effectively turns my smart charger into a "dumb" charger. When I'm in the garage I see a few wifi networks that I assume belong to people on the ground floor, but since I'm on the 2nd, no chance my signal is reliably travelling that far. I can't imagine my charger consumption is that much higher, since I don't idle much and also never pre-heat or pre-cool the car.

[RRocket]

Always 15-17 kWh/100km

[dkazzed]

I have no information about my plug/charger usage, since there's no wifi in my condo garage, which effectively turns my smart charger into a "dumb" charger. When I'm in the garage I see a few wifi networks that I assume belong to people on the ground floor, but since I'm on the 2nd, no chance my signal is reliably travelling that far. I can't imagine my charger consumption is that much higher, since I don't idle much and also never pre-heat or pre-cool the car.

I find that at minimum when there are no battery heating or cooling requirements, the onboard computer is still using about 300-400W whenever the vehicle is charging, and then inefficiencies with the charge itself and there's on average 15% of efficiency losses level 2 charging, and 25% level 1 charging. In extreme cold, it spends a little bit of time warming the battery before actually charging, but usually the heat generated while charging will keep the battery warm, even when it's -32 out which was oddly the coldest Edmonton got last winter.

How I justified preheating was 55 kWh is $7.81, even with 103.9 gas last winter, that's like 7.5 Le/100km. A V6 SUV/minivan uses a lot more than that in the same conditions. I imagine your condo parking doesn't ever get really cold? Even with unheated parkades, we at least design it to keep it above freezing to avoid bursting sprinkler pipes.

[Blueprint]

My latest EV was the Trailseeker, impressed by the observed 16.1 kWh/100 km for the week, handily beating the NRCan numbers. Impressive for a jacked-up off-roady long roof that does 0-60 in 3.9s.

New Bolt in a few weeks.

[dkazzed]

They should've switched the Trailseeker and Outback names, there's nothing Outback about the new Outback.