Quote from: RRocket on Oct 09, 2026, 03:04 PMThe knock on the turn signal is one of the loudest IIRC.
Sounds like there's a little gnome behind the dash with a mallet hitting the wood trim!
Quote from: dkazzed on Oct 09, 2026, 01:04 PMQuote from: RRocket on Oct 08, 2026, 08:15 PMQuote from: dkazzed on Oct 06, 2026, 04:15 PMI may be switching to SWTCH. I feel like I made excuses to stay with Grizzl-E long enough.
What happened?
You won't be surprised but the owner and the way he runs the company just comes off as sleazy. I've never been a fan of his PR but looked the other way for a quality made in Canada charger with a quality app and monthly payouts even if they are low. I like their investment into Canadian manufacturing but I'd be surprised if it was running at this point.
I don't have any confidence that any of the terms and conditions I initially agreed to are still valid. They're also "offering" for us to buy out their charger, but at full retail price ($695) with zero credits and it's still locked to their rebate system. Some people think it's because of the high rate of other program participants abandoning the program and United Charger does not have the capacity to ask people for their chargers back. Some people think the federal government is working to close the loophole that allows this system to exist.
I may hang on to their charger anyway and use it at the bare minimum required to stay in the program, it's still a fantastic portable charger with a plethora of options.
SWTCH has a charger for a $300 deposit refundable after 1,500 kWh, the payout rate is 3 cents for that first 1,500 kWh then 11 cents after that, with an automatic payout every $100. We would have been at $364 this year, with 3 payouts and $36 away from a 4th. We're at $128 earned with Grizzl-E so far, $96 withdrawn, I'm sitting on $32 for some reason.
Quote from: Bridgecity on Oct 09, 2026, 10:48 AMJunior's '12 Civic developed a vibration under light throttle while taking right hand turns, as well as a transmission oil leak. We narrowed the vibration down to the left side CV axle (original at almost 300k) and the transmission oil leak to the axle seal on the right side. Picked up an aftermarket CV and seals from Honda for both sides and swapped them out two nights ago. Took about 2 hrs, and Junior did all the hard work under the car. The vibration was gone, but now both axle seals were leaking terribly. I knew Junior had pushed the seals in a bit too far (supposed to be flush with transaxle case and he was about 1/8" past) and that allowed the moving parts in the tranny to chew up the seals internally.
Picked up two more seals yesterday and was more careful in their placement this go around and all seems well. We could swap both axles on this car in under an hour now, haha.
Quote from: Blizzard on Oct 09, 2026, 01:24 PMWow, sounds very complicated and unsustainable as a business model. What's going on the background for these companies to be able to pay you per kWh of charging? Are they collecting data?
QuoteCompanies like United Chargers (the maker of Grizzl-E EV chargers) make money by leveraging government green energy mandates—specifically Clean Fuel Regulations (CFR) in Canada—to generate, aggregate, and trade carbon credits. [1, 2]
## How the Business Model Works
* Carbon Credit Generation: Under regulations like Canada's Clean Fuel Regulations, large fossil fuel and oil companies are legally required to reduce their carbon intensity or purchase carbon credits from entities that displace fossil fuels. [2, 3]
* Aggregating EV Usage: Programs like the Grizzl-E Club (for home drivers) and Grizzl-E Commercial Club (for businesses) distribute smart chargers for free or via refundable deposits. In exchange, drivers and businesses connect their chargers to Grizzl-E's network. [1, 4, 5]
* Monetizing the Credits: Grizzl-E tracks the kilowatt-hours (kWh) consumed through these chargers. They bundle this data to prove that electric vehicles are replacing gasoline consumption, generating official carbon/clean fuel credits. [2, 4]
* Splitting the Value: Grizzl-E sells those accumulated carbon credits on the regulatory marketplace. They keep a portion of the profit and pass a share back to the user as a cash-back or per-kWh reward (ranging from 3 to 10 cents per kWh). [1, 2]
* Hardware Sales & Commercial Software: Beyond the credit-sharing model, the parent company (United Chargers) still manufactures and sells hardware outright (such as the Grizzl-E Ultimate or Mini) and supplies commercial management software. [4, 5, 6]
If you'd like, I can explain:
* How the carbon credit market works in your specific province or region
* The comparison between Grizzl-E and alternative programs like SWTCH or Pion
[1] [https://www.theglobeandmail.com](https://www.theglobeandmail.com/investing/markets/markets-news/ACCESS/2539720/united-chargers-launches-grizzl-e-commercial-club/)
[2] [https://www.reddit.com](https://www.reddit.com/r/EVCanada/comments/1sjzve7/grizzle_club_with_free_charger_and_no_annual_fee/)
[3] [https://www.youtube.com](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUmcB4pK4g)
[4] [https://www.youtube.com](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SH7fItzcFbQ)
[5] [https://www.reddit.com](https://www.reddit.com/r/EVCanada/comments/1u99ef2/united_chargers_announces_grizzle_commercial_club/)
[6] [https://www.youtube.com](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTGoC594rFc&t=121)
Quote from: dkazzed on Oct 09, 2026, 01:04 PMQuote from: RRocket on Oct 08, 2026, 08:15 PMQuote from: dkazzed on Oct 06, 2026, 04:15 PMI may be switching to SWTCH. I feel like I made excuses to stay with Grizzl-E long enough.
What happened?
You won't be surprised but the owner and the way he runs the company just comes off as sleazy. I've never been a fan of his PR but looked the other way for a quality made in Canada charger with a quality app and monthly payouts even if they are low. I like their investment into Canadian manufacturing but I'd be surprised if it was running at this point.
I don't have any confidence that any of the terms and conditions I initially agreed to are still valid. They're also "offering" for us to buy out their charger, but at full retail price ($695) with zero credits and it's still locked to their rebate system. Some people think it's because of the high rate of other program participants abandoning the program and United Charger does not have the capacity to ask people for their chargers back. Some people think the federal government is working to close the loophole that allows this system to exist.
I may hang on to their charger anyway and use it at the bare minimum required to stay in the program, it's still a fantastic portable charger with a plethora of options.
SWTCH has a charger for a $300 deposit refundable after 1,500 kWh, the payout rate is 3 cents for that first 1,500 kWh then 11 cents after that, with an automatic payout every $100. We would have been at $364 this year, with 3 payouts and $36 away from a 4th. We're at $128 earned with Grizzl-E so far, $96 withdrawn, I'm sitting on $32 for some reason.
Quote from: RRocket on Oct 08, 2026, 08:15 PMQuote from: dkazzed on Oct 06, 2026, 04:15 PMI may be switching to SWTCH. I feel like I made excuses to stay with Grizzl-E long enough.
What happened?