My "5 post review" will follow once my full review goes live, but at last I was able to spend a week with a top-tier RAM and it felt more like a Cowboy S-Class than a Cowboy Cadillac! Massaging heated/vented leather seats, pneumatic suspension, 19 speaker h/k stereo and, ahem, 540 hp. Even though I took it through my pretty rural "pandemic loop", I could do no better than a 17.8 l/100 km avg.
I always wonder when Chrysler come out with a new engine if it'll be a reliable one or some lump that will eventually break down epically after the warranty is gone.
It's one impressive engine. Seen some reviews with low 4's o-60. Think it'll probably be somewhat problematic, but so was the Hemi so buyers should be used to it. Hard to argue the merits of the Ram, pretty sweet units in top trim.
Quote from: Revelations on Jan 07, 2025, 07:55 PMIt's one impressive engine. Seen some reviews with low 4's o-60. Think it'll probably be somewhat problematic, but so was the Hemi so buyers should be used to it. Hard to argue the merits of the Ram, pretty sweet units in top trim.
C/D says 4.2 to 60, and it feels like it, shoved in the seat and pop-off valves hissing.
What I'm driving this week does that run in 4.3, but is as remote as possible from the RAM - a Volvo EX 40.
I think the biggest challenge with comparing anything to an S-Class is ride quality in secondary and tertiary motions. I've spent a ton of time in the new Ram (heck, I own a Stellantis store), and while they're leaps and bounds better than they used to be, I have yet to experience anything BoF that I'd call a Cowboy S-Class.
Quote from: TheHire on Jun 06, 2025, 10:19 AMI think the biggest challenge with comparing anything to an S-Class is ride quality in secondary and tertiary motions. I've spent a ton of time in the new Ram (heck, I own a Stellantis store), and while they're leaps and bounds better than they used to be, I have yet to experience anything BoF that I'd call a Cowboy S-Class.
I remember years ago on the old forum some members tried to claim that modern trucks basically drive as well as cars but that really isn't true in my experience. Trucks are definitely much better than they used to be but they're still trucks.
Quote from: Oliver on Jun 06, 2025, 12:04 PMQuote from: TheHire on Jun 06, 2025, 10:19 AMI think the biggest challenge with comparing anything to an S-Class is ride quality in secondary and tertiary motions. I've spent a ton of time in the new Ram (heck, I own a Stellantis store), and while they're leaps and bounds better than they used to be, I have yet to experience anything BoF that I'd call a Cowboy S-Class.
I remember years ago on the old forum some members tried to claim that modern trucks basically drive as well as cars but that really isn't true in my experience. Trucks are definitely much better than they used to be but they're still trucks.
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Quote from: Oliver on Jun 06, 2025, 12:04 PMQuote from: TheHire on Jun 06, 2025, 10:19 AMI think the biggest challenge with comparing anything to an S-Class is ride quality in secondary and tertiary motions. I've spent a ton of time in the new Ram (heck, I own a Stellantis store), and while they're leaps and bounds better than they used to be, I have yet to experience anything BoF that I'd call a Cowboy S-Class.
I remember years ago on the old forum some members tried to claim that modern trucks basically drive as well as cars but that really isn't true in my experience. Trucks are definitely much better than they used to be but they're still trucks.
That was me, a Denali 1/2 ton or the Dodge equivalent, ride very, very nice. Plus, at $100k, what kind of "luxury" car are you getting, some sad 4 banger Merc or BMW?!?!
Quote from: TheHire on Jun 06, 2025, 04:21 PMQuote from: Oliver on Jun 06, 2025, 12:04 PMQuote from: TheHire on Jun 06, 2025, 10:19 AMI think the biggest challenge with comparing anything to an S-Class is ride quality in secondary and tertiary motions. I've spent a ton of time in the new Ram (heck, I own a Stellantis store), and while they're leaps and bounds better than they used to be, I have yet to experience anything BoF that I'd call a Cowboy S-Class.
I remember years ago on the old forum some members tried to claim that modern trucks basically drive as well as cars but that really isn't true in my experience. Trucks are definitely much better than they used to be but they're still trucks.
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As a guy that dailies a pickup, I agree 100%. No BOF pickup comes close to a unibody in ride comfort/handling. New pickups are better, but still no comparison.
Quote from: Fobroader on Mar 06, 2026, 01:01 PMQuote from: Oliver on Jun 06, 2025, 12:04 PMQuote from: TheHire on Jun 06, 2025, 10:19 AMI think the biggest challenge with comparing anything to an S-Class is ride quality in secondary and tertiary motions. I've spent a ton of time in the new Ram (heck, I own a Stellantis store), and while they're leaps and bounds better than they used to be, I have yet to experience anything BoF that I'd call a Cowboy S-Class.
I remember years ago on the old forum some members tried to claim that modern trucks basically drive as well as cars but that really isn't true in my experience. Trucks are definitely much better than they used to be but they're still trucks.
That was me, a Denali 1/2 ton or the Dodge equivalent, ride very, very nice. Plus, at $100k, what kind of "luxury" car are you getting, some sad 4 banger Merc or BMW?!?!
The price is mostly irrelevant. There is no way a BOF truck rides or handles as smoothly as a modern car.
Quote from: Oliver on Mar 30, 2026, 02:59 PMQuote from: Fobroader on Mar 06, 2026, 01:01 PMQuote from: Oliver on Jun 06, 2025, 12:04 PMQuote from: TheHire on Jun 06, 2025, 10:19 AMI think the biggest challenge with comparing anything to an S-Class is ride quality in secondary and tertiary motions. I've spent a ton of time in the new Ram (heck, I own a Stellantis store), and while they're leaps and bounds better than they used to be, I have yet to experience anything BoF that I'd call a Cowboy S-Class.
I remember years ago on the old forum some members tried to claim that modern trucks basically drive as well as cars but that really isn't true in my experience. Trucks are definitely much better than they used to be but they're still trucks.
That was me, a Denali 1/2 ton or the Dodge equivalent, ride very, very nice. Plus, at $100k, what kind of "luxury" car are you getting, some sad 4 banger Merc or BMW?!?!
The price is mostly irrelevant. There is no way a BOF truck rides or handles as smoothly as a modern car.
That's why I said "Cowboy S-Class" - it's better than any other BOF truck, but still a truck ;)