Well I don't hate EVs, but....
Was looking to upgrade the Prius to another plug in but with AWD. There's a couple of boat ramps that were sketchy this year, covered with moss or slime (or ice!) Plus I'm looking at a slightly bigger boat. And the Prius has 270k on it (but still runs and drives perfectly). So I started kicking tires...
And stopped as quick as I started. The costs for used AWD plug-ins are ridiculous! Rav4 Primes are $35k ($37k with Technology Pkg). Outlander PHEV same ballpark. Considered a new Prius (no AWD though) and prices were similarly bonkers.
On a lark, looked at the prices on some EVs. And they are pretty cheap! Mid $20s fully loaded. Ended up testing one. Like it enough to decide to buy one. So I did. I'm curious to see if I'll regret it.
The much unloved Toyota BZ4X is what I ended up with. The fact they are unloved has depreciated them to borderline "bargain" prices. But only IF you can deal with the shortcomings. And I think I can.
Range is 300km (or so). The most I did in a day last year with work was 118km. The most in a non work day was 136km. And I regularly make my 40km range in the Prius work. So I have no concern there.
Charging time on 110v is 50 hours from dead to full. I only work part time and my time between shifts is 40 hours. So no concern. If it doesn't work out, I'll upgrade to a level 2..which gets it down to about 10 hours. Crappy for an EV but will work for me.
Since this is replacing my Prius, that was the benchmark. Not shocking it's "better" in most regards. Ride and handling are fine. Car feels planted (low CoG?). Better acceleration. Quiet. Nicer interior. Even the sucky JBL sound is better.
The Technology Package here vs the Prius is massively better. Not shocking given the 6 years between vehicles. But I actually was shocked by how fast and polished the self parking feature is vs the Prius which already worked really well.
Even though the Prius ICE engine was a bit grumbly...I think I'll miss that. I just like ICE. But I still have my awesome LS. So all is well!!
Anyways, here's the car. 2023 Toyota BZ4X with Technology. 49k kms. Bulk of factory warranty still intact until 2031. Also a HUGE thank you to Guy!! He checked out the car for me and like my Prius I bought it based on his inspection/test drive. So he's 2 for 2 on selling me Toyotas!
Congrats! Literally never heard of or seen a BZ4X, but it sounds like it'll meet all your needs and then some. The fact that you have the ICE LS you can lean on if/when the EV isn't going to cut it makes this pretty sensible. Did you trade the Prius or you going to sell it privately?
Congrats on the new EV. Looks like a solid buy for you, and it should work well for your needs.
That looks pretty clean! And should work well for you. For me the 300 km range would be severely limiting for a number of trips that I do, particularly if I'm towing the boat.
How far do you normally drive to the nearest launch?
Quote from: Tortoise on Jan 14, 2026, 09:50 AMHow far do you normally drive to the nearest launch?
6km. Here's the live video link. https://www.essex.ca/en/play/colchester-harbour-live-video-feed.aspx
The next most used is 25km.
We are surrounded by water so you're never more than a few KMs from a launch.
Quote from: Firm on Jan 14, 2026, 08:50 AMCongrats! Literally never heard of or seen a BZ4X, but it sounds like it'll meet all your needs and then some. The fact that you have the ICE LS you can lean on if/when the EV isn't going to cut it makes this pretty sensible. Did you trade the Prius or you going to sell it privately?
I'll sell the Prius privately...Very reluctantly.
Nice find! Will be interested in hearing your impressions.
Was thinking that you finally took some decent show'n'shine pictures, then realized they are dealership pics ;D
Quote from: Gurgie on Jan 14, 2026, 11:49 AMWas thinking that you finally took some decent show'n'shine pictures, then realized they are dealership pics ;D
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Quote from: Gurgie on Jan 14, 2026, 11:49 AMNice find! Will be interested in hearing your impressions.
Was thinking that you finally took some decent show'n'shine pictures, then realized they are dealership pics ;D
That's why I used them.
Bad enough I bought an EV! Bad pictures would have been a bridge too far! LOL 😆
Quote from: Firm on Jan 14, 2026, 08:50 AMCongrats! Literally never heard of or seen a BZ4X
Subaru made a sister called the Solterra.
The BZ4X uses Subaru's off road X-Drive AWD modes. And also has hill ascent/descent. I've seen some impressive off road capability videos from both vehicles.
Quote from: Firm on Jan 14, 2026, 08:50 AMCongrats! Literally never heard of or seen a BZ4X
Subaru made a sister called the Solterra.
The BZ4X uses Subaru's off road X-Drive AWD modes. And also has hill ascent/descent. I've seen some impressive off road capability videos from both vehicles considering what they are.
Congrats on the new wheels. Was it a short term lease return you think? I always wonder this when seeing cars with so few kms and years for the first owner.
One thing that I would have done extra that I might not do with other vehicles is go to Toyota with the VIN and see if they can print you off all the service and repair records. Sometimes that'll show if there was some issues that kept popping up and could have caused the trade.
Quote from: Johnnymac on Jan 14, 2026, 04:38 PMCongrats on the new wheels. Was it a short term lease return you think? I always wonder this when seeing cars with so few kms and years for the first owner.
One thing that I would have done extra that I might not do with other vehicles is go to Toyota with the VIN and see if they can print you off all the service and repair records. Sometimes that'll show if there was some issues that kept popping up and could have caused the trade.
Clean service..no problems.
Was a service loaner for the dealership.
Quote from: RRocket on Jan 14, 2026, 04:45 PMQuote from: Johnnymac on Jan 14, 2026, 04:38 PMCongrats on the new wheels. Was it a short term lease return you think? I always wonder this when seeing cars with so few kms and years for the first owner.
One thing that I would have done extra that I might not do with other vehicles is go to Toyota with the VIN and see if they can print you off all the service and repair records. Sometimes that'll show if there was some issues that kept popping up and could have caused the trade.
Clean service..no problems.
Was a service loaner for the dealership.
Perfect, so it should be good then. Any idea of what the service intervals are or any major services that might be coming up?
Nice! My girlfriend actually bought almost the exact same car as you last summer to replace her 2016 Crosstrek, except hers has the light grey interior and the gloss black fenders and roof. Originally she was looking for a hybrid or PHEV AWD compact SUV, but being just out of school she didn't want to buy new and used were CRAZY expensive. We looked extensively at options like a RAV4 Hybrid/PHEV, CR-V Hybrid, and Sportage/Tuscon Hybrid, and in her age and km requirements (1-2 years old, <40k km) everything was $40K and above. Insane! Originally like you she was against an EV, but when we started seeing the used prices, they're clearly a bargain.
After living with the bZ4X for 6 months, it's clear why they're generally considered to be the "worst" EV out there, lol. The specs are underwhelming all around and sometimes I ask myself what the heck they were thinking for certain elements of the car. And it's definitely inferior to the competition in many ways. I'm curious to see what you think after living with the car for awhile.
It's slower than most EVs in that you don't have the crazy 0-60 acceleration, but it rides very smoothly and comfortable. Charging isn't an issue for us since I already had a Level 2 charger at home. The interior, like most Toyotas, is well constructed but looks cheap. I find that the interior is barely passable for a 63K car in terms of look and materials - we test drove a base model LE and it was beyond bare-bones. The weird gauge cluster up near the windshield took me awhile to get used to, and this was worsened by the fact that at many seating positions, the steering wheel blocks part of the screen. I've figured out a good seating position now so it's workable - but YMMV, I've never had a car with a gauge cluster somewhere other than the "normal" position. Also, the one-pedal driving isn't truly one pedal, it just slows the car to 7-8 km/h, which was annoying since I'm used to the Bolt and it's full one-pedal driving.
All in all though, it's a huge upgrade from the Crosstrek and the fact that is has a bad rep means that the car was a great bargain - mid-high 30s on the road for a 2024 with 16,000 km (original MSRP of $63K before subsidies). Her car was purchased new and traded in at Porsche after less than 1.5 years, the original owner retired and bought himself a Porsche as a gift. We both agree that it's a terrible 63K car, but a great 34K car. At this price, the comparable options were new/almost-new gas subcompact SUVs, and this car is far superior (and has way lower operating costs) as long as you can deal with the range.
Like for you, range isn't a problem. We're not big road trip people so for the maybe once a year we drive beyond the range of either the Bolt or bZ4X in a single day, we'll rent a car or fast charge. Until temperatures dropped, the car was showing (and actually getting) 380-400 km in mixed driving (50/50 in-town suburbs/suburban highways at speeds of 90-105). Now that's in cold it's more like 230-250 km, which is crazy drop-off from the warm range and probably more than most EVs. But again, considering most of this car's driving is commuting (60 km round-trip), cottage weekends (90 km one way), and around town errands, it's never been a problem so far.
Quote from: Blizzard on Jan 14, 2026, 07:36 PM.
After living with the bZ4X for 6 months, it's clear why they're generally considered to be the "worst" EV out there, lol. The specs are underwhelming all around and sometimes I ask myself what the heck they were thinking for certain elements of the car. And it's definitely inferior to the competition in many ways. I'm curious to see what you think after living with the car for awhile.
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I pretty much agree with everything. For me though, it's a Prius replacement so in that regard it's a nice lateral move vehicle. Similar to your Subaru upgrade.
Everything is "nicer" than the Prius. And I was already used to the funkyness of the Prius, so the interior quirks of the BZ don't really bother me. In fact, both IQ and I feel like it's a Prius CUV. They feel like they share a similar lineage. So I was immediately comfortable.
And yes, at $60k this was a dumb buy. But at mid $20s, a bargain. Otherwise, I'd have zero interest.
I don't think I'm really going to like it as much as the Prius. But my "beaters" have never knocked my socks off (Echo, Insight, Prius,) so this will be much of the same.
And I think Toyota goes easy on the battery tech (charging, range, performance) to sacrifice for longevity reasons. This same powertrain in Europe gets a 1,000,000km warranty. And I'm OK with that. Toyota has always been extremely sensitive to the quality of their batteries in their hybrids so I think that applies here too
I just looked into the pricing of these, and wow, they are quite a deal. Bananas they were over $60k new.
I could see us getting one when the Golf goes and using it as a "city" car along with an SUV for longer road trips.
Congrats! Yes, probably the safest used EV option out there, with lack of initial success / great reviews to lower resale values, and Toyota's rep for reliability. I find the size "just right" as these are larger in person than they look in pictures. Good colour combo on your unit too!
So it was $20k? Or closer to $30k?
I had a quick look on autotrader, and the only ones I can find are in the low 30's for a 2023 with ~50k kms.
The only one in Winnipeg (https://www.autotrader.ca/offers/toyota-bz4x-xle-awd-accident-free-heated-wheel-carplay-electric-grey-23e57933-56a7-4f64-a9b1-ef6b7bb82cdf?sort=standard&desc=0&position=1&source_otp=t10&source=listpage_search-results&order_bucket=unknown&boost_level=b0&applied_boost_level=b0&relevance_adjustment=organic&boosting_product=none)
This would actually work in my use case, instead of a Civic Hybrid. We'll still have the CX-5 for longer trips, and the 2nd vehicle would mostly then be relegated to city/commuter driving. Like you, I could probably get away with just plugging into a normal household outlet. But at low-mid 30's, I'm not so interested. Mid 20's, that would be doable. Perhaps its because this one is an XLE? EDIT: Nope, this one isn't even as nice as the one you got.
Also, I wonder how it would do parked outside overnight at -35C. I don't have a garage, so my cars live outside. Would it still charge? How would the battery fare?
90 bz4x's listed on Trader for my province.
2023 LE fwd with 56,612 km for $24,939 - that's the cheapest in QC.
Plenty of others in the $20's, such as a 2023 XLE with pano roof, 71,488 km for $25,480.
Cheapest Solterra (63 listings) is an awd 2023 with 108,516 km for $23,992. Much fewer units below $30k due to higher content/msrp with the Subaru version.
These two do seem to be the sweet spot in the nearly new EV market!
So, a tiny bit of a thread hijack, but it's relevant - the topic of cheap EV's:
Here's an oddball:
Mazda MX-30 - $19k (https://www.autotrader.ca/offers/mazda-mx-30-w-heads-up-dis-sunroof-bose-sound-digital-dash-electric-39575c54-fc59-4344-98e5-35a510f072e1?sort=standard&desc=0&position=1&source_otp=t10&source=listpage_search-results&order_bucket=unknown&boost_level=b1&applied_boost_level=b1&relevance_adjustment=boost&boosting_product=total_boost)
It's got a $3800 insurance claim on it, so that tells me it was perhaps involved in a fender bender, but nothing too major?
What an oddball car. 160km range, lol.
Quote from: GreatBigAbyss on Jan 15, 2026, 09:09 AMSo it was $20k? Or closer to $30k?
Also, I wonder how it would do parked outside overnight at -35C. I don't have a garage, so my cars live outside. Would it still charge? How would the battery fare?
$27k
And the cold absolutely kills range.
You are not an ideal EV candidate.
Quote from: GreatBigAbyss on Jan 15, 2026, 09:25 AMSo, a tiny bit of a thread hijack, but it's relevant - the topic of cheap EV's:
Here's an oddball:
Mazda MX-30 - $19k (https://www.autotrader.ca/offers/mazda-mx-30-w-heads-up-dis-sunroof-bose-sound-digital-dash-electric-39575c54-fc59-4344-98e5-35a510f072e1?sort=standard&desc=0&position=1&source_otp=t10&source=listpage_search-results&order_bucket=unknown&boost_level=b1&applied_boost_level=b1&relevance_adjustment=boost&boosting_product=total_boost)
It's got a $3800 insurance claim on it, so that tells me it was perhaps involved in a fender bender, but nothing too major?
What an oddball car. 160km range, lol.
Before I bought my Bolt I looked briefly at one of these, because I've always liked Mazdas and they're plentiful and cheap on the used market in Quebec. Like, 50 cars for sale at any given time with many in the $15-20k range. At the time having no experience with EVs and also no charger at home, the low range scared me off.
But now, I'd totally rock one (or something like a Fiat 500e). I just finished my kilometers calculation for 2025 for my tax return, and my car drove 10,283 km in 2025 and I'd say my daily mileage is rarely more than 40 km. Occasionally on the weekends I'll do 100 km in a day, which would easily be doable in this car. Assuming I continue to have access to a gas car or EV with a longer range for the 1x per month I drive substantially over 100 km, this car would be totally viable for me. Assuming it's cheap enough to compensate for the shortcomings. Which I think it is... what other almost new car can you get for 15-20k these days?
Quote from: RRocket on Jan 15, 2026, 09:58 AMQuote from: GreatBigAbyss on Jan 15, 2026, 09:09 AMSo it was $20k? Or closer to $30k?
Also, I wonder how it would do parked outside overnight at -35C. I don't have a garage, so my cars live outside. Would it still charge? How would the battery fare?
$27k
And the cold absolutely kills range.
You are not an ideal EV candidate.
I did a few tests last winter with my Bolt, plugged into a regular household outlet. In warm weather it would gain around 8-9 km/2% per hour set at 12A. This started dropping off slightly below zero, and on the coldest nights when it was around -25, the car barely gained anything overnight.
So living in an area where temps are -35 at night, you would definitely need a Level 2 charger. Plenty of people in my neighbourhood charge their cars outside all winter with a Level 2 charger, so they seem to work regardless of the temperature.
At -35 though I feel like you definitely need a backup set of wheels in case range/charging issues are prohibitive.
Congrats on the new ride!
Just over two years ago someone I work with bought a Solterra for his wife, and an Audi etron for himself. I think they liked it just fine but in the fall he ended up trading it for a very lightly used, highly discounted Audi SQ6.
Congrats Ron. Seems like it fits your needs.
My aunt has one (2023) and it's been flawless so far
Congrats man! Very interested in following this thread and seeing how it works out for you.
Looks amazing Ron! I haven't looked at BZ4Xs but have seen bargain basement prices on Solterra. A consideration if we ever get a second vehicle again.
I'm still reaching for the keys to the Prius most days.....I'm going to miss it.
Got my free NACS adapter (via recall!) from Toyota and decided to try it out to see if it worked.
As with all things Tesla...junk. 4kWh charging speed.....slower than Level 2
Quote from: GreatBigAbyss on Jan 15, 2026, 09:09 AMSo it was $20k? Or closer to $30k?
I had a quick look on autotrader, and the only ones I can find are in the low 30's for a 2023 with ~50k kms.
The only one in Winnipeg (https://www.autotrader.ca/offers/toyota-bz4x-xle-awd-accident-free-heated-wheel-carplay-electric-grey-23e57933-56a7-4f64-a9b1-ef6b7bb82cdf?sort=standard&desc=0&position=1&source_otp=t10&source=listpage_search-results&order_bucket=unknown&boost_level=b0&applied_boost_level=b0&relevance_adjustment=organic&boosting_product=none)
This would actually work in my use case, instead of a Civic Hybrid. We'll still have the CX-5 for longer trips, and the 2nd vehicle would mostly then be relegated to city/commuter driving. Like you, I could probably get away with just plugging into a normal household outlet. But at low-mid 30's, I'm not so interested. Mid 20's, that would be doable. Perhaps its because this one is an XLE? EDIT: Nope, this one isn't even as nice as the one you got.
Also, I wonder how it would do parked outside overnight at -35C. I don't have a garage, so my cars live outside. Would it still charge? How would the battery fare?
I've level 2 and DC charged at -32 just fine. A little slow at 90 to 120 kW at those temperatures but admittedly I only preconditioned for like 10 minutes. I charge at up to 175 kW at -15 fully preconditioned. I have a home charger now but my garage still needs to be organized before I can fit a vehicle in there, so it charges outside just fine.
I like to keep at least 3 days worth of battery life in case charging somehow stops working and it takes a few days to get it to a dealer. Below -20, we could use 10-20% battery a day, so I charge anytime it gets under 60% to get it to the 80% limit. Now that it's warming up to +/-0, we use as little as 4% battery a day and I'll let it run down to under 40% before charging. Our level 2 charger is on a 30A circuit but I software limit it to 16-18A, only letting it get up to 24A if I'm home, awake, and need to charge it a bit quicker.
Caveat that my Grizzl-E Mini Connect charger has an operating range of -30 to +50, so in the uncommon event it drops under -30 here, we'll plan around it accordingly.
Quote from: RRocket on Jan 28, 2026, 01:52 PMI'm still reaching for the keys to the Prius most days.....I'm going to miss it.
Got my free NACS adapter (via recall!) from Toyota and decided to try it out to see if it worked.
As with all things Tesla...junk. 4kWh charging speed.....slower than Level 2
Something doesn't seem right. Is it CCS to NACS?
4KW is technically on the lower end of level 2 though.
Quote from: dkazzed on Jan 29, 2026, 01:33 PMSomething doesn't seem right. Is it CCS to NACS?
4KW is technically on the lower end of level 2 though.
CCS to NACS.
Yes, the something that isn't right is it's Tesla junk.
Would not be surprised if Tesla is throttling non-Tesla.
I took the adapter out of the car. I'll never use it.
Just wanted to test it out.
My NACS native Ioniq 9 hasn't had an issue at Tesla Superchargers so far up to 120 kW, so I wonder if the adapter might be the issue. But I only tested Tesla out briefly due to 60 cents per kWh off peak in Alberta (less in BC).
I despise Elon Musk but Tesla Superchargers are the only way for me to charge at over 100 kW between Edmonton and Kamloops via Jasper.
Quote from: dkazzed on Jan 29, 2026, 03:40 PMMy NACS native Ioniq 9 hasn't had an issue at Tesla Superchargers so far up to 120 kW, so I wonder if the adapter might be the issue. But I only tested Tesla out briefly due to 60 cents per kWh off peak in Alberta (less in BC).
I despise Elon Musk but Tesla Superchargers are the only way for me to charge at over 100 kW between Edmonton and Kamloops via Jasper.
There is no way I'm giving another dime to a Nazi. Even the 70 cents I spent was far too much...and shame on me.
Quote from: RRocket on Jan 29, 2026, 07:21 PMQuote from: dkazzed on Jan 29, 2026, 03:40 PMMy NACS native Ioniq 9 hasn't had an issue at Tesla Superchargers so far up to 120 kW, so I wonder if the adapter might be the issue. But I only tested Tesla out briefly due to 60 cents per kWh off peak in Alberta (less in BC).
I despise Elon Musk but Tesla Superchargers are the only way for me to charge at over 100 kW between Edmonton and Kamloops via Jasper.
There is no way I'm giving another dime to a Nazi. Even the 70 cents I spent was far too much...and shame on me.
Sales are down 60%. Profits for 2025 are less than half of previsions. Two core models get axed. Elof building humanoid robots. Stock goes ... up.
I've lost faith in the stockmarket.
My partner would likely be supportive of taking 2x longer to charge to avoid padding Elon's pockets. Our Ioniq 9 charges at a maximum of 126 kW at 400V chargers like Tesla V3 anyway.
Quote from: Blueprint on Jan 30, 2026, 10:33 AMQuote from: RRocket on Jan 29, 2026, 07:21 PMQuote from: dkazzed on Jan 29, 2026, 03:40 PMMy NACS native Ioniq 9 hasn't had an issue at Tesla Superchargers so far up to 120 kW, so I wonder if the adapter might be the issue. But I only tested Tesla out briefly due to 60 cents per kWh off peak in Alberta (less in BC).
I despise Elon Musk but Tesla Superchargers are the only way for me to charge at over 100 kW between Edmonton and Kamloops via Jasper.
There is no way I'm giving another dime to a Nazi. Even the 70 cents I spent was far too much...and shame on me.
Sales are down 60%. Profits for 2025 are less than half of previsions. Two core models get axed. Elof building humanoid robots. Stock goes ... up.
I've lost faith in the stockmarket.
Would hardly call the Model S and X core models. They made up a tiny percentage of sales since the 3 and Y were introduced.
Quote from: Oliver on Feb 01, 2026, 07:34 PMQuote from: Blueprint on Jan 30, 2026, 10:33 AMQuote from: RRocket on Jan 29, 2026, 07:21 PMQuote from: dkazzed on Jan 29, 2026, 03:40 PMMy NACS native Ioniq 9 hasn't had an issue at Tesla Superchargers so far up to 120 kW, so I wonder if the adapter might be the issue. But I only tested Tesla out briefly due to 60 cents per kWh off peak in Alberta (less in BC).
I despise Elon Musk but Tesla Superchargers are the only way for me to charge at over 100 kW between Edmonton and Kamloops via Jasper.
There is no way I'm giving another dime to a Nazi. Even the 70 cents I spent was far too much...and shame on me.
Sales are down 60%. Profits for 2025 are less than half of previsions. Two core models get axed. Elof building humanoid robots. Stock goes ... up.
I've lost faith in the stockmarket.
Would hardly call the Model S and X core models. They made up a tiny percentage of sales since the 3 and Y were introduced.
Core as in foundation - the S created the brand - way beyond what the very niche Roadster could do.
Update:
Level 2 plug being installed next week. It was doable on 120v for my 3 day a week part time job. But barely. Which I had figured on from the onset. Unfortunately, my basement is completely finished and the only way to get plug to front of house is outside. Cost is $2k with the best wire, conduit, plug, box, etc
Passenger side radiant heater seems to not be working. Not looking forward to dealer visit. Which brings me to another point: If the Prius broke (somehow), I (or someone like Firm, Blur911, etc) could repair it. Replacing an engine or even battery could be done by a competent shade tree mechanic in their garage. Barring that, any Indy. Not so with this vehicle. So you are absolutely tied to a dealer for anything more than brake replacement.
Vehicle is quiet. And so choosing tires that are quiet becomes more important. The OEM tires are getting loud. They have 50k on them.
Looking OVER the steering wheel is fine. And I'm short-ish. It's "different", so maybe that's why the complaints.
Android Auto annoys me with a couple of things. Might be just me not knowing the functionality.
Car had no glove box. But a rather large storage area below the console. So I added a divider to it.
There's one indy mechanical in the Calgary area that specializes in EVs. Something worth looking into.
Since I got my Ioniq 9, there's been this really annoying sound of something rolling around and I could not for the love of me find it, then my partner discovered it was the ball in the level indicator on the child seat. We're buying a seat with a liquid bubble level indicator. I do like that we can whisper to each other at highway speeds when we're trying not to wake the toddler.
No glove box seems to be an odd omission.
Quote from: dkazzed on Feb 03, 2026, 06:46 PMNo glove box seems to be an odd omission.
Used to it from Porsche! LOL 😆
But it was omitted for the radiant heater.
Truth be told, I don't put much in my glove box anyways.
It has this space under the "floating" console (like Volvo)
(https://i.pcmag.com/imagery/reviews/05Z62SNY5zthABbgCEpY9Vr-12.fit_lim.size_1050x.jpg)
I had to read up on this radiant heater thing. Interesting. Do rear passengers get a radiant heater too or is it just air heating for them?
I think our glovebox is pretty empty at the moment now that I think about it. We store the insurance and registration in the centre console, which is also pretty empty at the moment.
Quote from: dkazzed on Feb 04, 2026, 12:11 AMI had to read up on this radiant heater thing. Interesting. Do rear passengers get a radiant heater too or is it just air heating for them?
I think our glovebox is pretty empty at the moment now that I think about it. We store the insurance and registration in the centre console, which is also pretty empty at the moment.
Just the fronts.
You can shut off heating to the rear completely to save energy.